In a resurfaced interview from before LeBron James passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as the NBAโs all-time leading scorer, Shaquille OโNeal shared why, despite LeBronโs historic achievements, he still considers Michael Jordan the greatest basketball player of all time.
โWhen LeBron passes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in points, and he will this year, will that make him the greatest player ever? An interesting question,โ Shaq said, acknowledging the significance of LeBronโs climb to the top of the scoring list.
โLeBron is about to do something that hasn’t been done in a long time. And I think he will move his name up there. But for me it’s always Dr. J and Michael Jordan.โ
Shaq was quick to clarify that respecting Jordan doesnโt mean disrespecting LeBron, itโs just a matter of personal experience and perspective.
โI do look at LeBron, but I also listen to peopleโs opinions. Listen, Jordan was the greatest in my opinion.โ
โI Was Terrified of Michael Jordanโ
When it comes to impact, Shaq says stats aren’t the whole story, and Jordan had something else: a fear factor.
โHeโs the only man that had me terrified on the court,โ Shaq recalled. โI went from high school admiring him, college admiring himโฆ and all the stuff he was doing on posters, he was doing in real life. Like, he came by me so fast I was like, โOh s**.โโ*
โMike? Yes, I was terrified. But once I regained my nerves, I had to get into karate mode. Because in all the karate movies, the student must someday beat the master. And I won a lot of bets when I asked, โWhoโs the last guy to beat Michael Jordan in a playoff situation?โโ (Shaq points to himself.) โYes.โ
โIโm Jealous of LeBronโs Numbersโ
Shaq didnโt hold back in praising LeBronโs record-setting career, and admitted he wished he couldโve broken more records himself.
โWhen people look at stats, you know, his are definitely going to be up there. And to have passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar… I can truthfully say Iโm jealous of that feat because I was 1,500 points behind Wilt Chamberlain. I wanted to pass up Wilt because then I was going to arrogantly say, โIโm the most dominant big man ever and I donโt want to hear anybody elseโs name.โโ
โSo now when you talk about most dominant, you bring up Wilt, Bill, and Shaq. Itโs coolโฆ but I wanted to be up there by myself.โ
โWe All Think Weโre the Greatestโ
Even with all the debate, Shaq says greatness is partly personal, and that includes players like LeBron and Scottie Pippen.
โJordan’s the greatest. But you know, LeBron will pass up Kareem, and I canโt wait to hear everybodyโs opinion.โ
And when asked about Pippen once calling himself โthe greatest ever,โ Shaq replied with a smile:
โWe all think weโre the greatest ever. But if you ask me how I want to be remembered? Just want people to say, โShaq was a nice guy.โโ